tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3200331298119251012.post4462666717342225372..comments2024-03-27T23:36:55.630-07:00Comments on Hall of the Mountain King: Trampier in the PHBUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3200331298119251012.post-16993322603528179682014-07-15T06:25:39.801-07:002014-07-15T06:25:39.801-07:00p108 "The Magic Mouth" is puzzling but m...p108 "The Magic Mouth" is puzzling but my vote is still on Tramp.<br /><br />The piece looks like it was done on scratchboard or inked in white on a black surface. Compare Tramp's skill working in white on black (Monster Manual's Frost Giant, Wereboar and Spider Ambush) to Sutherland's (Night Hag). Tramp really brings out the details working only in highlights while Sutherland's looks rushed (the lighting is inconsistent, the body feels flat and incomplete).Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04006976826851198428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3200331298119251012.post-72659719865443214612014-07-14T18:49:21.588-07:002014-07-14T18:49:21.588-07:00I'm surprised that Sutherland didn't initi...I'm surprised that Sutherland didn't initial P12 'Praying for the Dead' as he did for every other piece of art in the PHB. I agree about the facial features, but the heavier detail is something I see more with Trampier than Sutherland so it made me unsure.<br /><br />P108 'the magic mouth' is just damn odd for either of them. Most of Trampier's work seems to scream out his name, but I just don't get the feeling from this one.Jason Zavodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109502376214104276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3200331298119251012.post-38768898734353150842014-07-14T16:34:36.875-07:002014-07-14T16:34:36.875-07:00Pretty sure p12 is Sutherland based on the shading...Pretty sure p12 is Sutherland based on the shading, the hands, and the dead guy's facial features.<br /><br />p108 is almost definitely Trampier based on the shading, especially on the hair & facial features.<br /><br />p120 is Trampier. The background shading is distinctively his and many more samples for comparison can be found in Wormytomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06653459162258850269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3200331298119251012.post-28938600543759193932014-07-11T09:55:18.066-07:002014-07-11T09:55:18.066-07:00Pg#12 was iffy to me because Sutherland seemed to ...Pg#12 was iffy to me because Sutherland seemed to have initialed all his work and it was a little involved for most of the artwork of his in the PHB<br /><br />I figured Pg#27 for Tramp but those initials were tricky, and Pg#107 was a bit obscure with the two letters meshed.<br /><br />For the magic mouth on Pg#108 if it is a choice between Sutherland and Trampier I'd say Trampier, but it still doesn't look right to me.<br /><br />Pg#120 - I spotted the DAT now near the upper right.Jason Zavodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109502376214104276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3200331298119251012.post-49299389074647121042014-07-11T09:41:27.997-07:002014-07-11T09:41:27.997-07:00I've studied Tramp's art for years and hav...I've studied Tramp's art for years and have developed an eye for his line work.<br />Pg#12 Praying for the Dead is Sutherland<br />Yes, Pg#15 is initialed "dt"<br />Pg#27 No Shirt, No Shoes, No Problem is initialed "DAT" at the bottom, center<br />Yes, Pg#102 Troll on a String is initialed "dt" in the upper center<br />Pg#107 Poison Dagger is initialed "Dt" in the upper right<br />Pg#108 The Magic Mouth must be Trampier from the quality of the rendering and the dwarf on the right is holding a sword that looks a lot like the falchions seen in Tramp's comic, "Wormy"<br />Pg#109 that's a Dave Trampier self portrait!<br />Pg#120 Astral Combat is tricky - my gut says Tramp but some elements look like Sutherland. If it was Tramp, I'd expect to see his initials hidden in all those squiggly lines everywhere.<br /><br />All your other credits look good to me.<br /><br /><br />Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04006976826851198428noreply@blogger.com